redpoint73 wrote: wingrider01 wrote:   really then why do the sites that tell you how to hack the phone caution it also. That kind of blows your opinion that  “Carriers and manufacturers just want to scare you into thinking you will brick your phone just so you don’t mess with their bloatware and proprietary ROM”   As posted by ATT on the forum – do so if you wish, neither ATT nor the manufacturer will assist if something goes south for the winter. Yeah, really.  I hack my phones constantly, loading custom ROMs, you name it.  No problems at all.  You obviously are too scared to ever do anything with your phone, so you can’t say anything about it if you haven’t tried it.   Yes, there is a tiny risk.  But just like when a drug manufacturer has to tell you there are risks of side effects.  Are you going to be scared from taking any meds if the chance having a bad side effect is one in thousands or millions?  If that were the case, you would never take any meds ever in your whole life.  Sometimes the benefits greatly outweigh the risk.   For that matter, your risk of dying in a car accident are pretty significant.  Yet I’m sure you insist on getting behind the wheel every day.    Another thing you have to remember, is yes you will see people posting on other forums about bricking their phones.  But the thing to keep in mind is that people usually only post when they have problems.  People tend not to post something when they do it right and everything goes well.  So it makes issues seem far more common then they really are.  If you could really see the proportion of people who hack their phones successfully, you would see the risk of bricking your phone is much less than 1%.   And like I said before, people tend to say they bricked their phone, when they haven’t.   You see posts like this occassionally on XDA.  Some guys starts a thread “I think I bricked my phone”, and somebody else responds “no you didn’t, do this”.  Then the OP writes back “Oh thanks, that worked”.  Its not a brick if you can fix it that easily.  A friend just commented the other day “I almost bricked my iPhone”.  Umm, no you didn’t.  Either you bricked it or you didn’t.  You can’t “almost brick” a phone.    I don’t expect or need ATT or HTC to help me with my phone if I do brick it.  If I brick it, I’ll probably buy another one.  Its the risk I’m willing to take.  Not everybody is going to take that risk, and I understand that.  Even if you do brick your phone, ATT may replace it.  If they can’t power it on, they won’t know you bricked it, and just assume it a hardware problem.  I’ve seen people post to this effect either here or on XDA (sent a bricked phone in for warranty and had it replaced).  I’m not counting on it.  But it happens. What ever floats your boat – the caution is put there becasue there IS a chance of bricking a phone when you hack it, the legitimate sites that publish the instructions put the warning there to eliminate the liability and the chance of a user permently damaging their phone and persuing legal action via a crass action suit or the such, the script kiddie sites rarely have this since they are anonomous and do not require proof.   Just because you feel invincible, does not justify telling other people that there is no chance of inadverently damaging their property unless you are willing to be held responsible for the damage. Not everyone has the spare cash to dump on buying a new phone at full retail if they try something and break it.   As far as “to scared” don;t make assumptions, it just proves nothing, because 99 percent of the time you are wrong. I and my employees use the company supplied phones for business, any employee that attempt to hack a corporate supplied cell phone and is discovered on a random audit of the phone is fired on the spot, no appeal. They since a document stating that, and have fired a few people for compromising the phone. You unvalidated assumption in that series of statements point right at the age bracket you are in.